Future session on Filioque (date will be announced later)

Future session will be on Filioque,

Venue: St Thomas of Canterbury Hall

Time:  TBD

Date: TBD

Filioque is a term used to refer to the addition to the original Nicene Creed by the Latin churches that describes the Holy Spirit as proceeding from both the Father and the Son, (and not from the Father only as in the original Nicene Creed. This led to some discussion between the Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches; thus, the issue is called “Filioque controversy”

Future Session will discuss the articles from Cumunio “   Clarifying the filioque: The Catholic-Orthodox dialogue

Suggested further reading:

  1. Filioque clause – New World Encyclopedia
  2.  What is the filioque clause_ – Catholic Straight Answers
  5. Filioque – OrthodoxWiki
  6. Filioque from Wikipedia


I hope to invite some of our Orthodox brothers, to take part in the discussion.  This is an open invitation to all other denominations and those interested to discuss theological issues.


Discussion on Saint Augustine and the experience of God

the third session of 2018 was on Saint Augustine and the experience of God by Father Jaime Garcia Alvarez  (1)

Date: 19th September 2018 at 7:00 PM

Jaime Garcia Alvarez

Location St Thomas RC Hall.

This article referred to many primary sources that some may be interested to consult mainly the writings and works of St Augustin.

  1.  If you need to learn more about St Augustin probably Wikipedia page on Augustine of Hippo might be useful    or better the entry in Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy  from here
  2. St Augustin converted from Manichaeism, which you can learn about  here  
  3. The main work of St Augustin can be found online Christian Classics Ethereal Library   here
    But his main works are:
  4. Confessions (Augustine)
  5. English Translation of his confession in pdf 
  6. Or can be downloaded from this site 
  7. Other works relevant to this article
  8. On the Predestination of the Saints (Book II in Latin originally was de dono perseverante)
  9. Soliloquies 

The presentation of Dr Matteo Casati  (45 min presentation) 

Please see additional comments on the paper from Tessa Metcalfe St Augustine & the Experience of God

Further comments from Rosie Budd  St. Augustine and experience of God_Rosie Budd

(1) Father Jaime Garcia Alvarez (OSA) Order of Saint Augustine. He finished his doctorate in 1962 at the Institut Catholique de Paris, he has maintained Teaching positions in many theological centres in France Belgium and Spain. His special interest is in the Augustinian theology, spirituality and writings.

13 June meeting: Translating the Mass: Language and Theology

Discussion leader: Dr. Phillip Eichorn

In 2011 English-speaking Catholics encountered a new English translation of the Mass of Paul VI.  There were noticeable changes in the prayers said by the priest (including the Eucharistic Prayers), but from the perspective of the people in the pews the most noticeable changes were in the words and phrases they’d become accustomed to saying over the previous 40 years.

One of the most noticeable changes was in the response to the priest’s invitation, ‘Let us pray.’  Instead of ‘And also with you’, the people were now expected to say ‘And with your spirit’—as in fact, they would have done in pre-1973 vernacular versions of the Mass.

But why these changes?  Why a new translation at all?

It may well be that the 1973 translation had certain shortcomings (which we will discuss), but not everyone has been pleased with its replacement.  Some have pointed out that another translation was prepared and finalised in 1998, but was never approved for use.

The presentation of Dr. Dr. Phillip Eichorn (1.30 Hour presentation)

Background reading for this discussion:

General learning sites on the ‘Translation theory’:

  • A very quick introduction to this complex subject
  •  Two concepts to be familiar with are ‘functional’ and ‘dynamic equivalence’.  
  • When Martin Luther translated Romans 3:28 , he applied what today would be called dynamic equivalence.  He had his own  defence of his approach in his ‘Open Letter’, 
  • Primary sources:
    • For a concise table comparing selected portions of the 1973, 1998 and 2011 translations, see here.  Notice that the people’s parts are virtually the same in the 1973 and 1998 translations.  Unfortunately the original Latin text is not provided here—but see below.
    • The 1998 English translation, which was never put into use, is available in its entirety here.  This consists of 4 very large files, but I’d recommend at least looking at the Introductory Prayers starting at PDF p. 432 of Volume 1.  You’ll notice that some of these don’t occur in the Latin original at all:  they’re completely new compositions.  You may also want to read at least some of the explanatory text such as the Foreword (Vol 1, starting PDF p.15).
    • Of course, it’s difficult to assess translations without reference to the original text. The complete Latin text of the current Mass of Paul VI (2002 edition) is hard to find, but a link to the entire 1975 edition is here.  The Introductory Rites start at the beginning of the second file (which is p.735 of Volume 1).
  • You may also be interested in looking at this vernacular version of the Mass that was used in many English speaking countries between 1965 and 1973.  This was essentially an English version of the Mass of Pius V (the ‘Tridentine Mass’), with a few omissions.  How do prayers said aloud by the people, like the Confiteor, Gloria and Creed, compare to translations later used when the new Missal of Paul VI was issued in English?
  • For more additional reading please contact Dr Philip Eichorn

20 March 2018 meeting: Discourse on the concept of Collegiality

Collegiality is a common concept in the pastoral life of the church and has a different definition in different denominations. The Roman Catholic tradition defines collegiality as “the Pope is governing the Church in collaboration with the bishops of the local Churches, respecting their proper autonomy”. It is, however, a very dynamic concept that presented itself in a different light after the Vatican II.
In this session of the Anselm Study Circle of (20th March 2018), we will discuss the historical background and the influence of Vatican II in redefining the concept of collegiality, as in the “LUMEN GENTIUM” of 1964.
The materials for this session are published by many theologians, especially in the first issue the journal Concilium (January 1965) which can be a good source of discussing the subject of collegiality. (See below).

Here are some links to background information:

  1. Some information about the concept of Collegiality
  2. Collegiality: The Church’s Pandora’s Box
  3. Collegiality in the Catholic Church
  4. Pastoral Collegiality and Accountability in Calvin’s GenevaInterview with Cardinal Ratzinger on Communion and Episcopal Collegiality

Some papers to read, (Please read at least one paper)

  1. The Church: The People of God YVES CONGAR
  2. The Pastoral Implications of Episcopal Collegiality Joseph Ratzinger
  3. The Principle of Collegiality By Philip C. L. Gray
  4. The Uncertain Future Of Collegiality
  5. Some Considerations on Collegiality and Synodality in the Light of Lumen Gentium Primacy
  6. In Collegiality The Primacy Of The Pope And The Unity Of The People Of God By Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
  7.  Primacy And Collegiality In The Works Of Joseph Ratzinger by • Richard G. DeClue

If you want to read “Lumen gentium,” the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church”, which is one of the principal documents of the Second Vatican Council. First Published in 1964. Chapter 3 discusses the concept of collegiality.

We hope these materials will be good sources for discussion, please select and read as much as you can (at least one).

13 December 2017 meeting

  • Date and time: meeting will be on the Wednesday 13 December 2017 at 6:30 PM
  • Location: Upper Room (above the sacristy of St Thomas RC church).

the following  papers  (all published in Communio), will be discussed

  1. The Primacy of The Pope and The Unity of The People of God    by Joseph Ratzinger
  2. Difficulties Confronting the Faith in Europe Today • Joseph Ratzinger 
  3.  3. Divorce and Remarriage in The Early Church: Some Reflections on Historical Methodology by Henri Crouzel




Anselm Study Circle

  • This new study circle /Group gathers to discuss and debate all theological and philosophical issues. Its purpose is to nurture a greater understanding and appreciation of difficult concepts and terminology; learning of emerging ideas and sentiments of the theology, philosophy, and Christian faith and the application of its rules to the contemporary world.
  • This is an open and free discussion forum, and not doctrinal; all in a relaxed setting.
  • The suggested format is to discuss selected articles published in theological or philosophical scholarly journals in particular Communio or Concilium.
  • We link this group with St Anselm, our Canterbury Doctor of the church and one of the prominent medieval theologian.
  • The meeting will be of special appeal to those with interest in Theology, philosophy and the study of religious faith, practice, and experience. It is especially suited for academic staff, teachers, research associates, undergraduate and graduate students and interested laypersons who wish to discuss theological and philosophical topics in some depth.
  • We suggest meeting once every two months (6 times per years) for 1.5 to two hours.
  • The suggestion for the first meeting is on Monday 2nd October 2017 at 7:00 PM in the Upper Room at  St Thomas of Canterbury RC Church. We will discuss our modus operandi and how to run this group at the first meeting.
  • If you are interested, please email Prof Ghazwan Butrous G.butrous@kent.ac.uk expressing your interest in attending, and your special interest in the subject.